Liz Oyer talks with Lucius T. Outlaw III, an associate professor of law at Howard University School of Law and former federal public defender, about how grand juries work, what standard of proof applies, and why their proceedings are secret.
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Notes:
The officer involved in the Sean Dunn sandwich case was a Customs and Border Protections officer.
The Broadview 6 protesters were charged with “conspiracy to impede or injure a federal law enforcement officer.”
This episode was recorded on August 26, 2026.










